• catty@lemmy.world
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    This has happened before no? Didn’t he cave and pay Trump tens of millions to settle? Though at this stage I feel it’s more like a publicity stunt than an actual credible lawsuit attempt.

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      Why? Also, now that Trump has set up his crypto exchange to make him millions for life in scam shitcoin rugpulls, what else can Trump get for free?

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      I would be happy with that. Vance is a stooge for some extremely corrupt people, but he doesn’t have the charisma or the ability to bend others to his will like Trump does. I think he would be an extremely ineffective stooge.

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        Vance would basically just follow project 2025 step by step.

        Which is still horrible and will still cause irreperable damage to the country (and world). But it would also JUST be that rather than trying to crash the economy on a weekly basis or start random wars as a way to distract from having crashed the economy and so forth.

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          But not have the pull to get others to go along with him. He’s easily the less evil between Vance and Trump.

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            Trump is a stupid old man with an inflated ego. It’s all about him - he doesn’t give a shit about project 2025 outside of needing to implement it to stay in power. If he could get a cult-like following on the left easier than he did on the right, he’d be pretending to care about inequality. He only wants to be king.

            Don’t get me wrong, he’s still evil. But Vance believes what he’s saying because he came to those opinions on his own. I think between the two, Vance is more EVIL…but like you said, he doesn’t have the sway. He’s poor by their standards, doesn’t have the same connections, and is easily bullied.

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              But Vance believes what he’s saying because he came to those opinions on his own

              That’s just not true. He is a puppet that has flip flopped based on the way his handles have told him to. There are many interviews with childhood friends of his to confirm this. He didn’t get to be the hardline Christfacist he is today until Peter Theil became his mentor and handler.

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                He didn’t get to be the hardline Christfacist he is today until Peter Theil became his mentor and handler.

                That’s probably true but he was in his 20s when that happened. He’s had evil beliefs for the majority of his adult life.

                I think it’s fair to say that Vance going into politics to push an evil agenda and Trump got into politics to gain power

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                  I think it’s fair to say that Vance going into politics to push an evil agenda and Trump got into politics to gain power

                  Yes, but also no. I completely agree about Trump. I do believe that Vance is in politics to push a specific agenda, but I don’t think that is necessarily his agenda. I think he was groomed and through that grooming found his path to what he sees as being successful. Just another run of the mill career politician doing what he thinks will advance his career. Hell, even recently remember he was a “never Trumper” until he saw his career path change directions.

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              Do you think he would have been able to get the Big Beautiful Bill through? I don’t think so. Trump is more than just Trump. He also owns the head of the GOP. The party will primary the candidates he chooses. Vance doesn’t have this power.

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                The parts that are part of project 2025? Yes. Because it isn’t trump that got that passed. It is the lobbyists and evil orgs that backed trump in the first place.

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      True. I would have said at the beginning that Vance was more of a neo-con puppet (Peter Thiel) but now with Trump’s latest actions, gaslighting Epstein, bombing Iran (promised no wars,) funding/arming Ukraine through Nato (again, not stopping war,) throw in building concentration camps in the US (Gator Alcatraz,) there is little difference between Vance and Trump. Vance could appoint Niki Haley (deep-state queen) as his running mate. What could go wrong?

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        Have you seen Elysium with Tom cruise?

        Basically that but not in the sky. Just autonomous zones guarded by kill bots for billionaires and their serfs.

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    It literally doesn’t matter to Trump, he got what he wanted, he’s already in office grifting away. He can’t run again unless he really does go full dictator and the courts rubber stamp it so “public approval” means absolutely fucking nothing to him.

    Murdoch and his supporters are like the contractors he fucked over in the past. He got what he wanted from them, now he doesn’t need you and will throw you away.

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      now he doesn’t need you and will throw you away.

      Or just break them out of principle so they can’t build up a different guy they might even slightly threaten Trump’s position. He’s vindicative enough to do that if someone mentions this.