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  • I mean yeah that makes sense - but I’ve personally not seen examples of prefigurative building that have rejected funding and resources from the old system on ideological “purity” grounds - quite often the reason is that established systems just refuse to funnel resources into alternative systems that don’t generate a profit.

    As an example - I was involved in a waste reduction/swap shop (food, clothing, furniture, etc) cooperative that due to it’s well established social value was getting council and some governmental finding for over 10 years - everyone involved in it would see it as a prefigurative example of the future of society of fulfilled low carbon living. However, due to austerity cuts and a profit seeking landlord, who was asking for 10 grand a month in rent (which was over a third of how much the coop was making) once the council could no longer funnel money into the landowners pocket - the project was no longer viable and folded.

    Now do you think the people that were involved didn’t do everything in their power to keep the project running? Not in the slightest - it’s just that the system is so hostile to such endeavors that they’re constantly fighting an uphill battle where one slip is enough to send you all the way down.

    So while I do agree that ideally we’d funnel resources from the old to the new - time and time again it’s been proven that relying on the existing precarious system only results in building on weak foundations that will take you down with them when they inevitable collapse.

    And I’m not saying this to dissuade you from pursuing a dual system theory - I’m genuinely trying to figure out a way where we can build the sorely needed infrastructure of the future in any way possible - in a climate that takes 15 years to approve a 50 square feet low traffic street to pedestrian area conversion in a time where we’re 25 years away from unprecedented climate catastrophy.


  • Is your proposal then to reform the existing system into a new one? To use the existing levers of power to attempt to rip that power away from those that are currently pulling them?

    Which I wouldn’t mind if it worked - but the original reason for prefigurative action was because this approach didn’t seem to achieve anything. But I guess you’re arguing that maybe the environment is different now and therefore more susceptible to change?

    How do you see everyday people participating in this political movement - voting? canvassing? running for office?

    I guess you see Mamdani as such an example? Tho I doubt anarchists would reject him just on the grounds of him being a reformist and therefore not valuable to the cause, in my experience any push towards a more socialist society is generally embraced and not rejected no matter where it comes from.



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    If you want to expand your political environment, teach activists or organizers how to cook. Teach them how to talk about relationship problems. Organize tea parties, raves, and mending clubs. Create spaces to unwind after work. Infiltrate churches, sports clubs, gyms, games clubs, online forums. Turn street protests into a space for networking: nobody is listening to your chants anyway.

    This is like prefigurative social building 101 - and sure there’s always going to be the “if you want to report abuse you should call the cops” type “anarchists” - but this whole post reads like terminally-online schizo-posting and not useful advice for people that are already out in the world as they say “touching grass”

    This is not a wishy-washy hippie approach to politics. It’s not the vapid appeal to community building of a New York artivist. It’s not about feeling good and projecting a vague sense of emotional intelligence onto the politics we do. It’s a sad, but necessary act. Sad because it adds to relationships an element of political motivation, and politics is always dirty. It is necessary because without a global-spanning web of social affordances, History won’t get back into motion.

    Also in terms of practical advice this article sounds exactly like the “vapid” community building they’re mocking. And while the hyper-violent “rivers of blood” framing may be useful for some - I thoroughly refuse the “sad” positioning as I’d much rather build toward happiness in the ideal of “If I can’t dance, I don’t want to be part of your revolution”

    Idk it’s an overall emotive text with imo like little substance that reads like “you believe in prefigurative action? that pales in comparison to my strategy - firebombing a Walmart” and then not firebombing a Walmart.





  • Wait this is actually real? I thought it was a hilarious sbubby but instead it’s just a depressing slap in the face…

    ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

    This was a gift for my dad who is an avid collector. His generation is so judgemental of us so this was perfect. So perfect in fact that my step sister gave it to him for Christmas too, which meant we got to open and play one of them. It was very satisfying to watch that old man come in last place at being a millennial! I asked him if a participation trophy would make him feel better. 🤣

    ha ha ha - you sure showed him 🥲






  • The amount of cope happening in that thread to convince themselves that cloud seeding caused the flood is off the charts…

    @Grok could cloud seeding have caused the floods?

    No, cloud seeding contributes 10-15% extra rain maximum

    But @Grok couldn’t that have been enough to push it over the threshold

    No, this was 40 inches of rain brought by a massive tropical storm

    But @Grok if it didn’t do anything why did they stop cloud seeding before the storm if it doesn’t contribute significantly

    (At this point Grok gives up and a human replies) You don’t need more water when you already have lots of water

    Mfs will believe localised weather meddling can cause a flood but can’t believe trillions of tons of CO2 can exacerbate natural disasters…

    I can’t believe that Grok is fighting the good fight in this case but by the looks of it they will only agree with it if it matches their existing belief system…






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    Your words create images and those can be more powerful than the meaning you may or may not intend behind them - so a better analogy would have been something like moths to a flame, which both would fit better the concept of being drawn to something and would have avoided the likening of people with rats that are being led to drown in a river (and rats like trans people are pretty cool and don’t deserve to be killed en masse)

    Why would people tell trans people “this is your flag” if not for commercial reasons?

    I’d ask in return which people do you think are telling trans people that it’s their flag? The flag was created in the 90s by a trans person and then got picked up by other trans people since they liked it enough.

    Still, are there massive issues with rainbow capitalism and the commercialization of everything? (like ikea and the blåhaj in this very post?) Absolutely. And yes in the current climate trans (and generally queer) visibility (as eg. Lily Alexander points out) can indeed be quite dangerous.

    Does this mean we should reject any and all “solidarity” from them? I don’t think so, as in I’d much rather capitalists cater to queer folk (even if we know it’s all just bottom line thinking) than not consider us at all - while we collectively stay aware as to why they’re doing it (also as we’ve seen they make really good canaries for when fascists show up and all the pink washing gets bleached)

    Also to me it does appear that it’s working - most trans folk I know are against this - sure you’ll still get some that will become brand enjoyers/defenders but you’ll also notice how Lemmy as a left-leaning vocally anti-capitalist space is teeming with LGBTQ people - those are not just coincidences.

    So yeah we both agree that there is a pervasive undercurrent that is exploiting queer (and het) people - and had you come in good faith commenting how you think ikea is exploiting the meme and the community to make more money I doubt you’d have gotten the same reception - but the way you phrased it you made it seem like it’s trans people’s fault for being exploited - instead we should focus on capitalism as the root cause and how we come together for the liberation of everyone instead of infighting over whose flag is more commercialized.


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    I can maybe explain - blue is traditionally a color that is associated with boys, pink is a color that is traditionally associated with girls, white is a full spectrum color that represents the gender diversity outside those two.

    Obviously the idea isn’t to limit people to boxes but making a simple yet commonly understandable sign that represents something as complex as gender identity can be quite tricky so compromises tend to be made.

    Also, weren’t you the person that said:

    If [marginalized communities] don’t feel comfortable, then more questions need to be asked as to why

    So then can I ask why did you think comparing trans people to rats led by a piped piper was the way to engage the community if your goal was to promote understanding and inclusivity?