• bishbosh@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    finite number of individuals, there will also necessarily only ever be a finite number of different gender expressions

    This only demonstrates that there will be a finite number of genders at any given instance. One could be more fluid and a responsive gender such that it maximizes the gay of any particular kiss they are having at the time.

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      7 months ago

      Sure but thats their experience of gender right? Their experience of gender will never be “not their experience of gender” even if it changes from instant to instant

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        7 months ago

        Sure, but just because sine is one function doesn’t mean it’s accurately replicable in a finite discrete system.

        I read your previous comment as making the point that because there are finite people, there will be finite values of gender, and therefore discrete and replicable. If it’s continuous and variable, even if there are finite individuals that have finite methods of expressions their gender, gender itself spans the reals.

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          7 months ago

          I was more approaching it from a programming perspective than a mathematical one - we could theoretically “label” all the gender experiences (perhaps just with the name of the individual that experiences it)

          Of course this would be like labeling different variations of the sine function, and other functions, to use the analogy you made

          The thing thats represented by the label may be discrete or continuous or anything

          To be clear, I’m not attempting to represent gender as a continuous spectrum between Man and Woman - I’m throwing the gender binary out entirely and imagining each gender as some arbitrarily defined thing, ie for some people its a sine function (again to use your analogy) with different coefficients

          If one wanted to represent the “gender space” as some 1d number line or 2d space with cartesian axes, then absolutely you’d need to fulfil the infinite and continuous criteria and I agree with you.

          Though, to ramble a bit, I don’t know what you’d use to label the axis/axes because we sure as hell can’t use Man to Woman when agender folk exist, and we can’t even use Man to Woman and Agender to Allogender because some folk would fall outside of those axes still.