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Carcharodonna [she/her]@hexbear.net to askchapo@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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Has anyone else here heard of this (betanet)? It appears to be some kind of censorship-resistant net protocol. What are your thoughts on it?

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Has anyone else here heard of this (betanet)? It appears to be some kind of censorship-resistant net protocol. What are your thoughts on it?

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GitHub - ravendevteam/betanet: The official specification for Betanet.
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The official specification for Betanet. Contribute to ravendevteam/betanet development by creating an account on GitHub.
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  • thetaT [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    so how is this different from GNUnet or I2P or Yggdrasil or all the solutions for this that already exist

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    We have censorship-resistant net protocol at home, it’s called Tor and I2P

  • AstroStelar [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The name just makes me think of how in Mega Man Battle Network 3 “Alpha” was the original Internet but it became cancerous, turned everything into a shapeless blob and had to be sealed away and replaced with a new Net.

    • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Damn the DataKrash from cyberpunk is just stolen MegaMan lore?

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        If it happened because the Internet was just buggy lol, though I like to interpret Alpha as a metaphor for the general rot we’re seeing play out now.

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          More the part about the original net being partioned from the new net.

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    Isn’t this just duplicating the work of something like I2P or Hyphanet (formerly know as Freenet)?

    Edit: apparently Monero as well? (see: “9 Payment System (L6)”)

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    https://hexbear.net/post/5797880

  • 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    *yawn* BetaNet? Wake me up when they have LigmaNet.

  • heatenconsumerist [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Tried for longer than I should have to wrap my brain around how “X25519-Kyber768” is quantum resistant.

    Project looks neat though, fwiw.

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      This hash is proof against quantum code breaking, on the basis that nobody has a quantum computer yet.

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        “nobody”

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          I know theres some experimental machines out there in like universities and stuff, but aren’t they still just poking around with like a singular q-bit before it decays again?

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            “Fastest” private machines are >1000 at the moment. NSA/CIA “gave up” trying to crack sha2 with a quantum machine in/before 2016.

            They already exist, this is already a “post-qunatum” environment.

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              huh

              so are these things just not as effective as was hypothesized, or do researchers still not really know how to use them? A little of both?

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    I haven’t read into this yet, how is the approach different to I2P?

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    Crypto? No thanks

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      I know you’re probably joking, and I’m not trying to endorse this project as I haven’t really formed an opinion on it yet, but I want to emphasize that cryptography is actually a good and valuable technology, even though cryptocurrency is not.

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        No I understand, but as far as I understand cryptocurrency is part of the “legalistic” side of this project right? That was just the impression I got from the video

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          Oh, possibly so, I just skimmed through the linked document briefly, so you may well be right, my apologies

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