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      Valid opinion, to me after ENT Star Trek with the mentality of the whole bridge crew being the main characters seems to have died, in Disco it seemed like the only valuable member was Burnham.

      + Disco gave in a lot into being apologetic towards Section 31, which is basically modelled after one of the largest terrorist organisations on this planet, the CIA

      EDIT: these are just examples meant to describe the general direction of NuTrek

      • Yeah definitely two valid points.

        And honestly I agree with them. There are also some other issues I have with star trek in general esspecially when seen througth a leftist lense. I will expandupon than when i have more time

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          From a leftist POV, Star Trek (before the reboot and arguably partially before ENT even) is basically a utopian socialist dream full of idealism. There are little to no materialist analyses and OFC it was heavily influence by:

          1. Being a TV series from a fucking US conglomerate having to appeal to yankees (and directors like Rick Bean 🙃). Which blocked progressive writers a significant amount of times
          2. Roddenberry in the first place being heavily influenced by the navy and him having this somewhat undefined secular Christian influence culturally
          3. and OFC many other things, but 1. and 2. are what came to mind most prevalently

          Despite this, DS9 followed by TNG then VOY make up my absolute favourite TV shows.
          (I unfortunately don’t know that many Soviet works, despite having access to them culturally being a German born Russian and all)

          The format and focus on philosophy, (human) personality, ethics and development just make my brain go brrr sometimes (though re-watching S1-2 of TNG is kinda hard.

          (Also please don’t take this as me interrupting you, feel free to leave a second comment like in “parallel” to the one I’m responding to RN)

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      I haven’t watched much of discovery yet but I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen. was really surprised to see all the hate. I guess it’s a slow start, and there’s sure to be “corporate woke shit” somewhere down the line, but it doesn’t seem like it’s pandering yet