And go where? Someplace else that doesn’t want them?
Be real, you just want them to die. To be gone, permanently. Don’t address the reasons people are homeless. Don’t provide actual housing. They’ll be fodder for labour camps soon enough, anyhow.
He started with the immigrants, because there was a tenuous theory under which his personal police force was allowed to fuck them up and do whatever they want. Some little speedbumps aside, that worked out okay, no one stopped it. Now he’s talking about federalizing the police force in one particular place, and moving on to the next target, who are citizens, American people, and where there’s not even that vague theory that he’s got a right to be throwing them in detention and letting them die of the natural conditions there.
If no one stops that, then it moves on to the next group.
I’d disagree on one point. The reason he started with immigrants is because on a deep level, many people - certainly most of his supporters - are somewhat racist, and are OK with immigrants getting fucked over, deported, or slaughtered.
That too. That’s the reason he’s now moving to homeless people. The thinking is that not many people will stand up for them. And you know what? He’s probably right.
I think even more people will try their best to stay within the in-group, and we’ll continue to see where people’s lines are, and how far they’re willing to move.
There will always be plenty of increasingly narrow targets.
Nobody was safe in Hitler’s Germany. You could do everything right and be slandered by the guy who thought you charged him too much, and now you’re a gay, and thus eligible for Dachau.
Consider that the federal agencies are now demanding that state agencies provide information on all the people who receive benefits like SNAP, WIC, Housing assistance, HEAP, etc. Families who qualify for SNAP (foodstamps) also qualify for other benefits including higher ed scholarships. These are usually grant monies that the state is allowed to distribute. Now they want more info… because “waste and fraud” - why not trust the states to determine that??? so after the immigrants, they focus on the homeless… then move on to the poors.
Going after disabled and mentally ill people was actually the first step for the Nazis, long before anyone was talking about death camps for particular ethnicities or sexual orientations. A disabled child, in July 1939, was arguably the first person deliberately killed in an organized and “legal” fashion during what would eventually mutate and grow, and become the holocaust.
Plenty of people have died in ICE custody since this started. If you hear from people who have visited and seen the conditions, it’s pretty clear why. The camps in Germany were the same: A lot of the deaths weren’t “on purpose” but just the natural outcome of conditions so harsh that they can’t sustain the basic functions that are necessary for life.
The camps were already running in 1939, probably some people had died “not on purpose” by then. Gerhard Kretschmar was just notable because he was the first one “on purpose.”
I’d also argue the wealthy are quite on board with this, as a smaller and fearful population is much easier to control and exploit. Make no mistake, Trump is a puppet for the real Lux Luthers.
He doesn’t just want them dead, the rich want us dead. Make no mistake, they believe AI was the turning point they needed* to finally no longer have need of the labor of the poor. And they believe the culling of the poor is the best thing they can do to combat climate change (without any personal sacrifice, of course).
*And no, the fact that AI isn’t remotely the miracle they believe it is does not matter because they believe it is even though they’re wrong. And yes, the rich do believe in climate change, even as they deny it to our faces.
They need to be taught they’re not as smart as they think they are, and they need to learn the cost of their hubris, just like their predecessors did. These are people who have convinced themselves their success means they’re geniuses, rather than them being extremely lucky or sociopathic. They believe this because they pay people to be their ‘friends’ and stroke their egos, so they don’t live in reality. Most people go along, because they’re hoping that ‘success’ will rub off on them, and then they fall into the sunk cost fallacy. And worse, ‘if I act like him, I’ll be successful, too’, so they become insufferable cunts, but they can’t stop because that means they were wrong.
For the oligarchs, there’s no convincing them. The only solution was pioneered by Dr. Joseph-Ignace Guillotin. They can’t be swayed, because they’re parasites on society. We’re talking about money hoarders, who are the same as any other type of hoarder – they could have every penny ever made from the start of humanity until now (and Elon is so close to that it’s crazy) – more than could be spent in thousands of years. But it’s not enough. It’s pathological, but in this case, it’s actively hurting not just their immediate family but everyone on earth.
Think about it: what would you do if you had so much money, your descendents literally couldn’t spend it all in 1,000 years if they spent a million dollars every day after you died? Would you just sit on it and try to accrue more?
Most of us, I think, would try to end world hunger, or use the bulk of it in a way that would make a major positive effect on humanity. But look at what Musk is doing with it.
The first thing I would do is end world hunger. Then I would work on irrigation and clean water supply and sanitation. After that, would work on agricultural sustainability. Medical tech/supplying all their health clinics with oxygen and medically stabilizing medications including vaccines and establishing research facilities; training for healthcare professionals. Then I would move on to education for the young once their nutrition and health is established. This is not hard. It has been done in thousands of civilizations.
That is objectively untrue. He has been grifting millions in crypto. There was a period of time after the last defamation judgement when his liabilities outstripped his liquid assets, but then he went full steam into crypto and never looked back. He is a full-time crypto grifter who is the US President as a side gig. And now, everyone understands that if you have business with the US Government, buying some $TRUMP will be a necessary thing to have any sort of positive result.
I was thinking it would be really cool if some crazy person decided to just blow up that bribe jet. But I guess it will not happen. The crazy gun nuts just like to shoot up kids, blacks, gays and Jewish people… and governmental employees/state politicos.
This is his Let them eat cake moment…. I’m wondering how long until feral maga realizes they are getting the big banana and shows up at the capitol with guillotines
I have no doubt in my mind that the wealthy view the non-wealthy in the same way that an average person would view an ant. They may not hate it, but they don’t like it, and wouldn’t feel the slightest bit guilty killing one if it happens to be in their way, or killing thousands if they feel as though they’ve “infested” what they view as their property.
And go where? Someplace else that doesn’t want them?
Be real, you just want them to die. To be gone, permanently. Don’t address the reasons people are homeless. Don’t provide actual housing. They’ll be fodder for labour camps soon enough, anyhow.
Nevermind there are currently 28 vacant homes for every one person experiencing homelessness in the U.S., many of which are owned not by individuals but by corporate conglomerates that have no incentive to fill them with people, since they’re a tax write-off.
Fuck everything about this. In modern society, housing should be a human right. There’s already more than enough to go round.
e: though now I think about it, what else should we expect from the US’s most famously notorious slumlord?
It’s a lot more sinister than that.
He started with the immigrants, because there was a tenuous theory under which his personal police force was allowed to fuck them up and do whatever they want. Some little speedbumps aside, that worked out okay, no one stopped it. Now he’s talking about federalizing the police force in one particular place, and moving on to the next target, who are citizens, American people, and where there’s not even that vague theory that he’s got a right to be throwing them in detention and letting them die of the natural conditions there.
If no one stops that, then it moves on to the next group.
Preparation
Planning
Execution
Consolidation <== you are (already!) here
Domination
Extermination
I’d disagree on one point. The reason he started with immigrants is because on a deep level, many people - certainly most of his supporters - are somewhat racist, and are OK with immigrants getting fucked over, deported, or slaughtered.
That too. That’s the reason he’s now moving to homeless people. The thinking is that not many people will stand up for them. And you know what? He’s probably right.
They came first for the immigrants, but I did not speak up because I was not an immigrant
Then they came for the homeless, but I did not speak up because I was housed
Then they came for the queers, but I did not speak up because I was not queer
Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up
I think even more people will try their best to stay within the in-group, and we’ll continue to see where people’s lines are, and how far they’re willing to move.
There will always be plenty of increasingly narrow targets.
Idk that’ll basically be everyone the course we’re on…
Not all our jobs are gonna make it through this mess. Many will be faced with a choice of ‘join ice or be detained.’
Nobody was safe in Hitler’s Germany. You could do everything right and be slandered by the guy who thought you charged him too much, and now you’re a gay, and thus eligible for Dachau.
This is fascism.
Consider that the federal agencies are now demanding that state agencies provide information on all the people who receive benefits like SNAP, WIC, Housing assistance, HEAP, etc. Families who qualify for SNAP (foodstamps) also qualify for other benefits including higher ed scholarships. These are usually grant monies that the state is allowed to distribute. Now they want more info… because “waste and fraud” - why not trust the states to determine that??? so after the immigrants, they focus on the homeless… then move on to the poors.
In his decree on July 24 2025, he made it easier to pick up and detain homeless people.
https://www.npr.org/2025/07/24/nx-s1-5479139/trump-homelessness-executive-order-civil-commitment-camping
It also mentions drug users and the mentally ill. They’ll be next on the list to go into the concentration camps.
And “mentally ill” is open to interpretation. They’re already on record for saying being trans or gay is an illness.
Going after disabled and mentally ill people was actually the first step for the Nazis, long before anyone was talking about death camps for particular ethnicities or sexual orientations. A disabled child, in July 1939, was arguably the first person deliberately killed in an organized and “legal” fashion during what would eventually mutate and grow, and become the holocaust.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4
What’s scary is I’ll bet we’ve already passed the ‘first victim’ of this regime, and it will likely be decades before we can say who it was.
Plenty of people have died in ICE custody since this started. If you hear from people who have visited and seen the conditions, it’s pretty clear why. The camps in Germany were the same: A lot of the deaths weren’t “on purpose” but just the natural outcome of conditions so harsh that they can’t sustain the basic functions that are necessary for life.
The camps were already running in 1939, probably some people had died “not on purpose” by then. Gerhard Kretschmar was just notable because he was the first one “on purpose.”
I feel the theory that he is just a Russian asset doing a genocide speedrun against Americans makes the most sense.
I’d also argue the wealthy are quite on board with this, as a smaller and fearful population is much easier to control and exploit. Make no mistake, Trump is a puppet for the real Lux Luthers.
The ghettos, like the Jews in Nazi Germany.
He doesn’t just want them dead, the rich want us dead. Make no mistake, they believe AI was the turning point they needed* to finally no longer have need of the labor of the poor. And they believe the culling of the poor is the best thing they can do to combat climate change (without any personal sacrifice, of course).
*And no, the fact that AI isn’t remotely the miracle they believe it is does not matter because they believe it is even though they’re wrong. And yes, the rich do believe in climate change, even as they deny it to our faces.
They need to be taught they’re not as smart as they think they are, and they need to learn the cost of their hubris, just like their predecessors did. These are people who have convinced themselves their success means they’re geniuses, rather than them being extremely lucky or sociopathic. They believe this because they pay people to be their ‘friends’ and stroke their egos, so they don’t live in reality. Most people go along, because they’re hoping that ‘success’ will rub off on them, and then they fall into the sunk cost fallacy. And worse, ‘if I act like him, I’ll be successful, too’, so they become insufferable cunts, but they can’t stop because that means they were wrong.
For the oligarchs, there’s no convincing them. The only solution was pioneered by Dr. Joseph-Ignace Guillotin. They can’t be swayed, because they’re parasites on society. We’re talking about money hoarders, who are the same as any other type of hoarder – they could have every penny ever made from the start of humanity until now (and Elon is so close to that it’s crazy) – more than could be spent in thousands of years. But it’s not enough. It’s pathological, but in this case, it’s actively hurting not just their immediate family but everyone on earth.
Think about it: what would you do if you had so much money, your descendents literally couldn’t spend it all in 1,000 years if they spent a million dollars every day after you died? Would you just sit on it and try to accrue more?
Most of us, I think, would try to end world hunger, or use the bulk of it in a way that would make a major positive effect on humanity. But look at what Musk is doing with it.
The first thing I would do is end world hunger. Then I would work on irrigation and clean water supply and sanitation. After that, would work on agricultural sustainability. Medical tech/supplying all their health clinics with oxygen and medically stabilizing medications including vaccines and establishing research facilities; training for healthcare professionals. Then I would move on to education for the young once their nutrition and health is established. This is not hard. It has been done in thousands of civilizations.
I don’t need the rich or the government to “believe”… I just want them to understand and have some fucking insight.
I am near retirement… but I have to tell you… if one of those oligarch/politicos comes in … I am slow coding that bastard.
Like other dictatorships building golden palaces and keeping their area nice while not giving a fuck about other places.
Like his planned gaudy gilded ballroom?
The number of people who could be fed and housed with that money should make you sick if you’re not a monster.
That fucking ballroom is proof to me that he doesn’t plan on leaving at the end of this term.
There is no way that selfish greedy fuck would spend the money on this if he didn’t think he would be around to use it for a long time.
To be fair, he’s spending taxpayer dollars, not his own money.
In his mind, everyone’s money is his money. He basically said this in his rooftop soliloquy.
In practical terms, he’s correct. He owns this country and anyone who disagrees is delusional
He has no money of his own
That is objectively untrue. He has been grifting millions in crypto. There was a period of time after the last defamation judgement when his liabilities outstripped his liquid assets, but then he went full steam into crypto and never looked back. He is a full-time crypto grifter who is the US President as a side gig. And now, everyone understands that if you have business with the US Government, buying some $TRUMP will be a necessary thing to have any sort of positive result.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2025/06/05/this-is-how-much-trump-has-made-from-crypto-so-far/
I was thinking it would be really cool if some crazy person decided to just blow up that bribe jet. But I guess it will not happen. The crazy gun nuts just like to shoot up kids, blacks, gays and Jewish people… and governmental employees/state politicos.
He claimed he’s using his own money, though somehow I don’t believe him.
He “donated” his presidential salary for this year. But not the bribes.
This is his Let them eat cake moment…. I’m wondering how long until feral maga realizes they are getting the big banana and shows up at the capitol with guillotines
Green Zone in Iraq.
I have no doubt in my mind that the wealthy view the non-wealthy in the same way that an average person would view an ant. They may not hate it, but they don’t like it, and wouldn’t feel the slightest bit guilty killing one if it happens to be in their way, or killing thousands if they feel as though they’ve “infested” what they view as their property.