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EfreetSK@lemmy.world to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 3 天前

What The Bishop Chess Piece Is Called In Europe

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What The Bishop Chess Piece Is Called In Europe

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EfreetSK@lemmy.world to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 3 天前
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Source: https://brilliantmaps.com/bishop-chess-piece-europe/

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  • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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    Great map but I don’t trust the source since it cannot even be bothered to correctly mention that some languages several names for pieces. I am Slovenian and have never heard anyone refer to the bishop piece as lovec (hunter). It was always tekač or laufar (runner).

    • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Laufar sounds like a loan word from German Läufer

      • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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        Because it is.

        • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          22 小时前

          • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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            We have hundreds if not thousands of deformed and abused ‘loanwords’ from german in the northern part of the country.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    didn’t know the seas call the bishop a spear

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    Look, look! Spain having alfil meaning elephant and Italy having alfiere meaning standart-bearer (is that a common English word?) great! Which one came for the other? Or are they oddly unrelated?

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      The Spanish word is borrowed from Arabic fil (sounds sort of like “feel”) = elephant (al fil = the elephant). Hebrew cognate is pil, sounds sort of like the English word “peel”. Italian is unrelated, I think.

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        Kowalski Wazowski, analysis!

    • salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I think it’s supposed to be “standard-bearer”, which (at least in my part of the world) would more likely be called a “flag bearer” since more people are familiar with the word “flag” over “standard” when used in that sense of the word.

      Also, it looks like it was originally called alfil (according to this Wikipedia article? Whereas the Italian “alfiere” came from a different Spanish word meaning “second lieutenant”?

  • phr@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Spelling mistake in luxembourgish. :(

    should be “Leefer”

  • FundMECFS@lemmy.cafe
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    This heathenous map adds basque and catalan, welsh, scottish gaelic, but somehow erases breton and occitan.

    • tal@lemmy.today
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      Based on a pass with Google Translate from “The bishop is a chesspiece in chess”, I think that Occitan is l’evesque and Breton eskob.

      • FundMECFS@lemmy.cafe
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        Thanks :)

      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
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        Evesque would be bishop, yea… I’m surprised it doesn’t share the french word (jester)

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    Using my phones translator function on this image, this is what comes up.

    What on Earth is a “teaspag” that it put as the Scottish one?

    (Although I zoomed at a different rate and tried again and then it read “bishops”)

    • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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      Rikis was a name for an Old Prussian or Lithuanian leader or a noble person.

    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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      Teaspag is Irish Gaelic for bishop

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
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        Ai is reading the Gaelic poorly and misinterpreting it? Makes sense. But it supposedly translated words into English for me, not Irish.

        So I started imagining that “teaspag” is is like a certain type of spag bol the Scots have with their tea.

    • FundMECFS@lemmy.cafe
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      I dunno how it translates french “fou” into “new”. “fou” means mad/crazy.

      • troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.world
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        I guess it’s because “fou” means “new” in Samoan. Why Samoan, though.

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      It mixed up umlauts on Hungarian:

      • Futó is the chess piece, it means runner.
      • Fűtő means heater. It’s strange it hallucinated 3 extra accents.
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    Most of these kind of make sense, then you get stock of a gun

    • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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      Probably originally something offensive that sounded similar in that language, and was forced to be changed to be more civilized.

  • FerretyFever0@fedia.io
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    Elephant

    • klu9@piefed.social
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      Also ‘elephant’ in chaturanga, the game that was the ancestor of chess, and several variants.

      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturanga#Pieces_and_their_moves
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiangqi#Elephant
      • FerretyFever0@fedia.io
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        Elephant

    • Derpgon@programming.dev
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      We got a shooter (Czech)

  • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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    🇨🇭, Zurich: En Loifäär

    (I bet every canton has at least own version 😝)

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    Stock of a gun sounds like an insult

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    I get Spain, but why is it that so often with these maps Eastern Europe shares the same word as the Arab world?

    • merde alors@sh.itjust.works
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      I get Spain, but why is it that so often with these maps Eastern Europe shares the same word as the Arab world?

      Ottoman empire ruled the eastern Europe for some centuries and Ottoman language was a mixture of Turkish, Persian and Arabic.

      Territorial changes of the Ottoman Empire 1672

      but i assume that the elephant is Indian influence rather than Arabic. IIRC, that’s also where the game is conceived

      edit, yes, it literally is an elephant ☞ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturanga

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