cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/35744452

EU parliament accepted a last minute amendment, mandating age verification for pornographic (whatever that is) content online, punishable with up to one year prison sentence.

This was rolled into a directive concerning CSAM. Because adults accessing porn need to be de-anonymised to avoid child exploitation?

Some press releases: (1), (2), (3)

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    23 hours ago

    I would have expected more upvotes for the end of the free internet. Do people not care or are there other reasons, e.g. everybody already accepted it?

    At the same time GB seems to already demand age verification for Wikipedia. https://feddit.org/post/17205698

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    websites to put in place “robust and effective age verification tools to effectively prevent children from accessing pornographic content online”

    Whatever this means…

    Clearly, you can’t verify someones age without identification.

    People will just use VPN and watch in America or wherever.

    Next step is banning VPNs…

    What time to be alive

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      Clearly, you can’t verify someones age without identification.

      Yes, you can. Via a third party that has the information but keeps it save while only verfying your age.

      Alas… there already is that third party with all the information. The same one issuing our passports and IDs. There is also a technical viable way to do it securely incidently implement is said IDs.

      The fact that it isn’t used but alternative (and distinctively unsecure and de-anonymizing) ways ar constantly discussed screams loudly that age verification isn’t a goal but a (very badly disguised) pretense.

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        Yeah, of course, your data is stored somewhere… but if you use that to confirm your age on a porn website, they know where and when you log in. And i wouldn’t be sure, that this data is secure or if they use that for whatever reasons.

        Sure, it’s a bit of doomsday thinking, but i don’t trust my goverment, since they like Palantir so much.

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          That’s the whole point.

          They can just cryptographically sign a “this person is over x years old”-flag on your ID. And by design you pick which details on your ID you send over when you use it online. So it’s basically: “I am a legal adult. You can trust the country issuing my ID that they properly checked and know.”

          The problem lies entirely elsewhere, specifically that they don’t want a secure and anomymous way of age verification but surveilance for the sake of surveilance with age verification requirements as a pretense.

          Also no, it’s not doomsday thinking that you can’t trust your government. In reality it is not even about “thinking” or “trusting” but I actually KNOW that they want to abuse my data or they wouldn’t find clearly made up justifications why they need to collect them in the first place.

          That’s the only reason I stressed that it is indeed possible to do age verification right. The whole “we need to collect data to provide proper age verification” is already a lie. They can detach the act of verification from your actual personal data, they just don’t want to.