• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 day ago

      Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against “lgbt=colonialism” then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.

      • IndiBrony@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to “if I don’t believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!”

        Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          I’m talking about contradictions that can arise between religion and politics.

          If their religion says to be charitable to the poor, but their politics say to starve the poor, they’ll starve the poor. If their religion says to love their neighbor, but their politics tells them to hate their neighbor, they’ll hate their neighbor. When there’s a contradiction between religion and politics, they’ll choose politics and then work backwards from there to justify it religiously.

      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 day ago

        I get what your saying, but I’m adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          Abrahamic religion isn’t set in stone, it’s capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesn’t even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.

          But secularism isn’t impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Perhaps less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism against the Christian colonizers, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.

          Or they’ll convert to Islam. It’s hard to say.

          But there are lots of ways this can play out.