The Turks wouldn’t really have a problem with Israel occupying southern Syria as long as they get the north

The Turks want to be the primary patron and don’t want to see the Russians buy their clients out from under them, they’d rather a destabilized Syria then a Russia that can leverage political power with Jolani

Please read up what happened to Russia in the 1990s before proceeding

I know what happened in the 90s, doesn’t make Russia a global south country, the global south is defined by neo-colonialism and a complete breakdown of sovereignty, that is not Russia despite the mess the traitors and oligarchs made, which is why the west hates them because the west expected Russia to become a global south country and it didn’t happen, hence the origin of the current war

What’s stopping the Western left from arming themselves?

18 intelligence agencies, a million strong army, 900,000 police, millions of class traitors and potential informants, dozens of heavily armed right-wing militias that can be deputized by the state, should I go on?

Putin values Turkey over Syria, won’t happen

Russia is not a global south country, why is every answer you give a complete non-sequitur, my critiques about Putin are centered around his anti-communism and pro-western sentiment that has led Russia to near ruin and his leadership WILL NEVER lead to libration in the actual global south, he abandoned the Middle East to US dominance and almost abandoned the entirety of Eastern Europe before the US over played their hands with Ukraine

He’s a weakling and a liberal coward, Russia needs better leadership that isn’t allergic to challenging the west

ondemning them for not doing enough) also conveniently give out dozens of reasons as to why they themselves cannot do so within the Imperial Core.

Putin’s the one with the army, not me

Reminds me of this funny old world beef thread I found on reddit last year

First of all I’m not gonna be lectured on Iran “blaming” when I was the only one telling you flip-flopping mfs to stop dooming during the opening hours of the 12-day war, I didn’t see you backing me up while I dealt with all the doomer takes, so zip it

Pure ahistorical and non-materialist view of the world.

lmao I’ve had people in this thread assert Putin was “just an innocent professor before he bravely took charge of the country and brought the oligarchs under control”, GET A GRIP, you Z-posters have face-planted into a bizarre version of Great Man Theory concerning Putin, and you want to talk about ahistorical and non-materialist?

No, you’re being ridiculous and the whole lot of you need to go out and touch grass, unironic pro-Putin posting, unbelievable

Then Russia would respond ranging from assassinating Trump to bombing US cities

Neato

Removed by mod

Putin is a weakling, a neoliberal, a traitor and a right-wing bigot

He doesn’t have the balls to hand the US empire a defeat, which is why he waited for twenty years until an army of 700,000 neo-nazis massed on his border to do anything, because he thought the Germans of all people had convinced the US to play nice with Russia, and even after the war began all he’s done is get in the military’s way, ordering bullshit faints, backing the central bank in cratering Russian economic growth, mandating undermanned and understaffed units to save money, to say nothing of that fuckin fiasco with the mercenary army

He’s a CIA creation and a burden on Russia, success has come because of western incompetence and Russian institutions slowly working around Putin’s limits through trial and error

Nice argument, very convincing

You really want a world where a precedent for just straight up jailing the head of state of the worlds largest nuclear armed state is created? Really?

Yes, we need the US to become a rogue pariah state, non-western global elites are at the end of the day servants of capital and will shy away from nuclear escalation over a single individual, but they will punish the US in any way they can manage or get away with, but they need incentive in the form of a nasty precedent that could one day be wielded against them

The potential benefits outweigh the risks, the US empire is dying and lashing out like a cornered beast, there is no such thing as diplomacy under this global order, it has to die and it’s better it dies a lonely death at the expense of one person instead of millions

we really need to think about the system holistically

Heresy!

It’s not even a meme, liberals are literally like this

Ukraine with western aid literally bombed the Kremlin, arresting Putin is not gonna trigger nuclear holocaust, the Russians will certainly respond somehow dramatically, or maybe not and it causes a nationalist uproar in Russia that eventually blows over, or Russia bombs a US base somewhere in a limited strike

Either way it’s within the realm of possibility and the results will weaken capital globally, so it’s a likely net positive

Putin is a spurned lover of the west, even the whisper of détente sends him into a euphoric neolib state of mind

Look, every major economy in the 2000s tried to court the US

My point exactly and look where that led, in what universe is this a coherent defense of Putin?

China does even more of that lol.

And they should stop before the bombs drop

Russia would be alone against the US if it were to do that.

It is alone against the US, unless you count North Korea, funny how it all came full circle, but without the socialism or a unified Eastern Europe

Almost like the capitulationist bullshit that toppled the Soviet Union doesn’t work in the long term and you end up at war anyway

One of the butchers still means he had a part in destroying it

Get Fuckin Real he was head of Saint Peterburg’s Committee for External Relations in the early 90s, his job was literally to sell Soviet state assets to foreign investors or to the new oligarchic government in Moscow

The man began his “political” career as a liaison for western investors looking to rob the country blind

SO YES! Literally, ONE OF THE BUTCHERS

Are you joking or something? He was first deputy head of the Saint Petersburg administration and leader of the city’s NDR branch, he was a collaborator and neolib from the beginning, get real

You’re thinking about Gorbachev and Yeltsin. When Putin took over

Huh, it’s almost like that’s my point or something, one could even say there was sort of continuation of a “shared project” maybe even a political operation by the oligarchs to guarantee a “succession” of their new state, under careful analysis one could even assume the phrase “One of” could imply multiple actors with a shared history, well it’s one for the noggin