I wonder if there is a genetic component to keeping fire for recreation or comfort.

I think all societies have a cooking on fire aspect.

The use of fire seems to play a much more active role in societies in cold climates. It seems to play a less prominent role in the tropics with warmer nighttime temperatures.

Very good explainer from Tom Scott.

https://youtu.be/Is_wu0VRIqQ

Mint is great for older hardware performance wise. It’s also one of the most polished distros in terms of things like updates, settings and updates. The Ubuntu/Debian ecosystem is also better supported by 3rd parties than Arch and Red Hat.

Elementary is a lot of the same, but the UI is more for Mac refugees.

It is lagging a bit on the latest gaming support. Thats what bazzite(Fredora) and CachyOS(Arch) are doing very well at the moment. They are a bit heavier on hardware requirements though, but still less than Windows.

But your isp modem will have total access to your local devices.

Most other phone brands don’t unlock their bootloaders anymore, so GrapheneOS can’t support them, even if they want to.

Yeah, I was pulling the conversation all over. Apologies for that.

Getting back to the original points, I agree with you that Colonialism and imperialism are major factors to the current situation in Palestine.

The original point I was making is that religion is being used to perpetuate the conflict and makes the populations vulnerable to manipulation. Something that is used to perpetuate oppression around the world.

I take you point on Language being important. A lot of things get misunderstood due to different definitions in different circles. I don’t disagree with the definition as you explained it

In terms of human rights, you only need to look at the correlation between level of religion in a country vs the personal freedoms. There is also a distinction between what the laws in a country prosecutes and what society prosecutes. Child marriage and arranged child marriage is one example. most countries make it illegal, but its still very common is highly religious societies.

Another example is Woman’s rights:

I don’t have enough specific knowledge about what is happening in Egypt right now. What I would expect to see is a similar pattern of other countries in the world after regime changes. One religious group uses their influence in the government to crack down on other religious groups. or the Government uses one group to go after another group to keep people divided and focused on each-other, rather than against the government. Something like what we saw happen in Iraq under and after Saddam, Northern Ireland, Balkans.

In terms of examples of countries economic outcomes, the economic picture is less clear cut because of a lot of factors, so you need to isolate as best you can for those. You could equally compare look at Europe, point a Greece and say its an example of Europe weak economy. Best to look at the region overall. So using the Malaysia example, you also need to look at the region including Thailand, Indonesia, to compare those examples. The de-fanging example I had in mind, was the fall of religious monarchies in Europe resulting in the renaissance. Individual rights and economic prosperity for the average person only really started in Europe when the people became less religious and their Monarchies lost power. You could say the same thing for places like Japan and its Emperors.

Note that when I say Islam, I am referring to the religion, not using it as a replacement of the distinct cultural groupings of muslim and Islamist. Much like Orthodox and Catholic are distinct cultural grouping, but both are still part of the Christian religion.

Similarly when I refer to Judaism, I am referring to the religion, not the culture referred to as the Jews.

In terms of human right oppression, i am referring to the religion’s effect. That is present in most of the Islamic countries.

It’s not just islam. Look of christian evangelism has been leveraged by the republican party in the US. Look how Catholicism is used by the right wing in Poland.

Everywhere you see human rights retreating, your see prominent religion alligned with those forces.

You are correct that there are Islamic extremists as well that are not satisfied, often because they think the government is not being extreme enough. Just like the far right evangelical Christians supporting the Jewish occupation of Gaza, becuase they want to end of the world to happen.

Countries that have managed to defang their religions have much better economic and social outcomes. Countires who have had them creep back in, like in the USA are getting much worse.

Thanks for contributing information.

So when I demonstrate knowledge that does not support your views, your response is to dismiss it?

Are you simply unwilling to engage and provide the necessary information to be convincing, or are you simply falling back on projecting your own ignorance on me?

You forgot about the Crusades. When the islamists invaded the region and the catholic church counter invaded.

It has very much been one of the conflict hotbeds in the world. Like the Balkans, Armenia, Somalia.

The little secret that the Zionists and Islamists would like to forget, is that there are almost no generic differences between Modern Israelis and Palestinians. They come from the same people, from before the Islamic, Catholic and Zionist conquests.

What I meant, is that they are not commonly used anymore, because of how expensive rackspace and power has become in commercial settings.

You must mean the British and French who took control from the Ottomans. America had very little to do with it until much later.

Religion is still used by those powers to control people, even if the government is not overtly religious.

Religion’s power over society is easily co-opted by those with power.

And before them, it was the Ottomans, and before them it was the Arab islamic conquests and so on and so forth. Colonialism is far from only a western problem.

Palastine has been faught over and handed between major powers for millenia. They have never been allowed to form their own regional state for long enough.

I would clarify my point. It’s not that religion needs to be in control, it’s that religion’s power over society is used by whomever is in power to control people.

I agree it’s far from the only factor, but it is one that prevents a path to peace and the one that many people avoid confronting because of the taboo against criticising religion.

Religion does not need to be in control of the government for it to be used to control people.

Look how republicans co-opted Christianity to get leaders like Bush and Trump in power.

Look how Judaism is used to force people to tolerate the dominance and oppression of the region.

Look how Islam is used to restrain people from claiming human rights and how it is used to infiltrate, undermine and further imperial ambitions.

Religion is the tool used by oppressors to get normal people to tolerate and do terrible things.

To clarify my earlier point, you need to break Religion’s power over society, in order to make the society resistant to following those types of leaders.

The conflicts are much older than that, but yes, it is definitely not helping.

The whole region is so engrained with violence, oppression and exploitation. All of it stems from religious control.

The only way to rehabilitate the region is to remove religious control and establish secular institutions.

Front loading bays though. Most 3.5 inch drives go in top loading bays. Do they looking like modern 3.5inch drives, or older ones?