What about onlinebanks? Also a hard no?

That is fascinating to me as well:

Movies > Big filesizes > many public trackers and seeders

Music > smaller and easier to store/play > less public trackers, only slsk is really viable

Books > even smaller > there are some websites like anna and a lot of small ones

But then: Sheet music > even smaller files > almost impossible to pirate

It is fascinating to me that there isnt one clear spectum along filesize.

I guess it has to do with the target audience and demand.

Klassiker…

In Laden, herumschauen, nachfragen, die Grösste anprobieren: zu kurz oder Hosenbund zu gross, Angestellte geht im Lager schauen, “leider in dieser Grösse keine mehr an Lager, wir könnten für sie eine bestellen, dann könnten sie sie nächste Woche abholen” JA DANN KANN ICH SIE MIR AUCH DIREKT SELBER NACH HAUSE BESTELLEN DANKE nächster Laden, …

Ebenfalls lang und dünn hier. Für einen Anlass brauchte ich schöne edle Kleidung und besichtigte mehrere “Grosse Grössen” Geschäfte. Stellte sich heraus, dass die meisten davon “Gross” als Euphemismus für “Dick” verwenden…

In einem wurde ich fündig. (Dimertrius in Zürich) Sie haben Hosen mit Hosenbeinen, die mir gut 40cm zu lange waren. Für mich ein unglaubliches Erlebnis. Man wählt praktisch den Hosenbund und Röhren-Durchmesser. Die Länge wird bei allen nachgekürzt.

Alles in allem eher teuer natürlich aber kann ich jedem empfehlen, der sonst Mühe hat, Hosen/Oberteile/Anzüge zu finden.

Und sonst Jeans einfach online, mit Bund- und Beinlängen geht das ganz gut.

True! And for an enthusiast who wants to spend only a few days on finding a distro and setteling into it, like me, its nice to have only three (big) DEs, which you can test and choose in one day and then are set for the further journey.

Now “bundle” a distro to each DE and a newbie would have that experience for the whole distro-finding-experience

Maybe >10M -> 100% would be fine. With 10M wealth you wont be buying media conglomerates, only maybe a small newspaper.

The billionaires are the biggest problem and they have 1’000 millions or 1’000’000k.

So addicting, lost several hours to it and i dont even like mobilegames…

I couldnt figure it out, probably because I am a CL noob. Do you use a gui for it?

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2021/8/6/the-key-to-slowing-traffic-is-street-design-not-speed-limits Its a very NA-centric organisation but a hood one. In europe the streets often look differently

Another example of a narrowed street https://www.threads.com/@thetransitguy/post/DD7VyqTx4-y?from_lookaside=1

I have to interject: It is not like bread, as it is a bigger commitment (as I dont want to distrohop for longer than a week) and also it is more complex to create an OS than to create a bread (so more manpower is needed). Choice is a good thing. But too much choice can be bad. Imagine someone is directing a “linux curious” person to distrowatch. There the newbie will be overwhelmed. Maybe not and he just clicks on a distro and tries it. Probably a bad idea as the change from his previous (corporate) OS is a big change already, now the newbie uses a distro which probably doesnt fit his needs.

My case is that, like with the fediverse, the different options hinder the wider adoption, as potential new users have a problem with it during onboarding. Which is a difficult time as is. Even for someone who is switching from Windows to MacOS, two polished and widely adopted OSes, they are gonna have a hard time. Now add the choice from dozens of distros and the very vocal linux community and the switch is impossible for many potential new linux-users.

I’d like to say that I am not brainwashed, I am currently using Debian+KDE in Dualboot wuth Windows and Linux Mint for the selfhosting server. (Yes I know, this is the wrong distro for a server, it was my first contact with linux so I just picked the most polpular among newbies. Which is kind of the point of the whole thread.)

Well put, thanks

No corporate control, not less options.

There need to be a handful of distros with less settings, being more “fixed”.

I personally like to being able to set everything how I like it.

But it just isnt necessary to have THAT many actively developed distros. If devs could drop 1/4 of the distros and redirect their efforts on bigger projects, those would profit massively.

Thanks, you condensed my thoughts very well. The point with flatpak is very important. I used discovery by kde but it seemed not as polished as it should be. Not to say that there are better “stores”. I hope the inclusion of flatpak/flathub into distros/DEs gets improved significantly and gets adapted wider.

I’ve read that before, didnt realize that this was a joke…

No, I dont suggest that there should be another new distro. The existing ones are pretty good at the goal of being userfriendly, at least some of them like Linux Mint

It is a problem if the goal is to increase the “personal desktop OS marketshare”.

But diversity is a good thing for itself I agree. I have the feeling that it is a bit sad that it seems that there isnt one or two “main” distros, which one could recommend that tech illiterate family member.

Yes, sorry, that wasnt my intention.

When I talked about “Linux” or “distros” i only ment Desktop OS for personal use. Sorry!

Agree! I dont want to dictate anyone and I understand that my rant wont change anything.

It was more about the hypothetical optimum “if we one wanted to optimize for user-share of the desktop OS market”, then there should be fewer but better distros.

No, “Effizienz” is not a particularly complex thing that would need multiple words. The “typical” and “german” part is something germans themselves dont mention.

Or specifically bred/GMOd soy and corn which gets used for animal food instead of soy and corn humans could eat.

(Nothing against GMO, but against our high animal produce consumption)