We don’t want this dystopian nightmare either, and just like Brexit we weren’t told what it was before it was too late. Hopefully you will welcome us back when all the liars are voted out and ignored.

Well he also died over 100 years ago. But at the very least we should be angry at the Carnegie UK Trust that pushed through this dystopian legislation first.

Carnegie UK, did this in the UK… the same Carnegie that was one of the original “robber barons” of the Industrial Revolution, until the public were so angry about the wealth gap the governments of the time were forced to introduce labour laws and stop their greed. This is sounding familiar…

Anyway 100 years later his companies and “charities” are back to fuck with us again.

Do you have a really heavy door that needs stopping?

Oh FFS, we will willingly ‘take one for the team’ here. Just look at what a load of crap it is, it’s the tech equivalent of Brexit, we were not informed how it was going to work, no one got what they wanted and we’re all worse off because of it.

If the UK can’t be a good example at least let us be a dire warning

When developers asked the White House if they required a dickroom to go with the new ballroom, they were told that was not required as the Oval Office was serving as the dickroom for the next three years.

Plus you can hide a button mushroom basically anywhere.

They can’t keep getting away with this!!!

Why do I always get the knob seat?

This is the question, each version of the Fold I’ve waited a month and searched for complaints about the screen.

The screens have undoubtedly got better but there are still hundreds of complaints about visible damage to the fold line reported within a month of release. Only just over a month before the Fold7 results are due!

I think this is where the tech going into the iPad Pro and iPhone Air is destined to end up, if they can get the thickness of each side into the low 5mm ballpark, then a 10mm folding phone vs. a 8-9mm pro model and its not much thicker.

I’d trade 1-2mm thickness for a 5.5” form factor (please submit your jokes below)

We must also bomb Iran because War is Peace! Lock up the immigrants because after all Freedom is Slavery for the Proles! This was always the case, every record in the Ministry of Truth confirms it.

Let’s not forget all that lovely metadata they can harvest by accessing the camera module, including the exact GPS co-ordinates the picture was taken.

I’ve not seen any credible reporting of Apple using or selling user data, do you have any links to real investigative journalism into this?

Regarding iCloud decoupling I have a VM running iTunes which backs up my phone once a week, I’ve no complaints with that process and it saves the iCloud monthly charges.

I’ve not heard of lineageOS until today, PostmarketOS looks interesting, but with so many different devices it’s got to be really hard to keep track of all the different distros and make sure nothing nefarious slips in.

In all likelihood I will need a ~£100 battery replacement soon, while my phone works for my current use case it is getting less secure and some apps have already dropped support for iOS16. I’m just planning for my future and thought my planning process might be interesting for other frugal people.

While your options are more frugal they are probably not secure enough for me, but I will take a look.

I’ve not seen any credible reports of Apple devices containing spyware inherently.

I’m a bit confused about your point here, Google’s business model is creating a profile on you to sell advertising, so is Microsoft, Apple sells the hardware for a high markup and keeps you in its walled garden in exchange for privacy, or at least there are no credible reports of Apple ‘double dipping’ and selling your tracking and browsing data.

I would rather have open source and fully transparent and secure, maybe Linux-based mobile OS, but I don’t think that currently exists.

Ooh - I’m going to look into that! Thanks

I did plan on that last year but the 15 only dropped by about 10% (£100), so less than the value of one year of improvement for an 8 year lifespan device. I will keep an eye on this again as sometimes places like Costco have silly offers to clear stock.

Thank you! This was my thought exactly, I’m skimming MacRumors for the details of the 17 to see if I should start another fixed saver or buy one in September.

I really want to have as little impact on the world as I can and keeping a phone for a long time is frugal and planet friendly. My current one does need rebooting about once a week now or it loses network connection. But that’s only 52 reboots a year :)

I think I’m just going to start a new saver anyway, the chances of anything truly worthwhile is very slim.

It’s one of those situations where if I jump to another ecosystem it will be a hassle, and ideally I would ideally avoid Google, maybe a Graphene or Fairphone but they are still Android forks.

I may end up having to replace a phone half the price after 4-5 years, rather than 8-10 years.

It’s not really possible to know what phone will last longer, but the higher end phones tend to have the latest tech, and will last longer, even if it’s just a couple of years.

I did hesitate to post this here, as I’m always frugal, but this is something I have in my hand/pocket all day. Buying a cheap phone is sometimes (but not always) a false economy. I don’t know anyone who spends less than £15pm on their mobile plan and phone.