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Cake day: July 16th, 2023

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  • I think we’re all aware. And Hong Kong isn’t (wasn’t) China in terms of governance(“one country, two systems”). China broke the deal it made with UK, which said Hong Kong would be autonomous until 2048, after which it would be incorporated into China.

    But you’re right, not much to do when China claims authority and no one defends its right to free speech, democracy and autonomy.

    Edit: added some need nuance on the “one country, two systems”.


  • Hong Kong was supposed to be free to control itself until 2048, democracy and free speech etc. China the decided that Hong Kong was starting to getting a little too free and started to tell the sitting president to shut the protests down.

    China eventually took back control and instituted a national security law that could be used for pretty much anything after the crackdown didn’t quell the unrest.

    I was actively following it live as it unfolded. It was very sad to see how much young people fought for basic freedoms and still lost it.

    I remember being torn between my general non-violence stance and also understanding the protestors reciprocating the police violence.


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    Tell that to Hong Kong demonstrators on June 16, 2019, estimated by organizers at 2 million people marching. Hong Kong had a population of 7.5 million at the time.

    Sure there was violence both before and after that protest, but mostly caused by violent crackdown by police.

    But did it fail because there was violence or was violence a sign of stronger opposition? Causation vs correlation and all that.