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    5 months ago

    I’m still not convinced that isn’t just insurance fraud to try to recoup some money for junky cars no one wants while pretending he’s a political victim.

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    You know what’s horrific and evil? Cutting Medicaid and social security for millions of people because your billions of dollars isn’t enough money to make up for the fact that you’re a giant man baby.

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    The best thing about this is that Tesla is massively overvalued. Like, the stock price is more than 20x what it should be based on Tesla’s earnings.

    If Tesla had a reasonable value, then hedge fund managers and other rich people would probably be buying it while it was temporarily down and getting rich as it went back up. But, with it so insanely overvalued, it’s much more likely they’ll short it or buy put options and hope to get rich when it finally crashes.

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        Yes, it was at something like 30x overvalued, now it’s only 20x overvalued.

        Glad you mentioned Toyota. Their P/E ratio is approximately 7. Tesla is approximately 100. If Tesla were a well run car company with a lot of good vehicles and an anonymous CEO who nobody hates, the fair value of their stock would be about $14 per share. It’s currently $236 per share.

        Someone is going to make mountains of money shorting Tesla stock, but unfortunately it’s going to be someone rich. The market can remain irrational much longer than normal people can remain solvent. Some rich dude is going to take the risk though and make out like a bandit.

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    The funny thing is the first tweet was right, just wrong in his intention. I don’t see this ending without a civil war.

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        As long as they don’t step into canada, all that will be waiting is a bullet and a disgraceful burial.

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          They are going to do it from within Canada, just like they’ve done elsewhere. That infection already exists in Canada. Just hope it doesn’t spread.

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            I think you underestimate my pentiant for violence. If the buzzer gets buzzed my muzzle is off.

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        I think it’s what we want too at this point though.

        Serious question, what are we meant to do with all the die-hard Trumpers? Like there are people who are willing to kill for him, people who have gladly sacrificed their relationships with their friends and family for him. Even in the absolute fantasy world where the U.S. gov could be fixed via electoralism, we’d still have about a third of the country that is hungry to kill the other 2/3rds.

        At this point it looks like our options are either re-education camps, or bloodshed.

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          I think it’s a trap. I think liberal institutions need to actually unify and resources. Money talks. Nothing about that has changed. Buying out board seats within corporate media, flooding the zone with lawsuits, staging organized major protests around the country, continuing to press back on right wing controlled social media (e.g. Facebook and Twitter). Think of it like laying a sort of political and legal siege to slow them down and starve them out rather than giving them what they want. Will that work? I have no idea, but I know walking into a trap surely won’t.

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          I don’t understand how you guys down south are still asking this question? It’s obvious to us up in Canada, how is it not clear to you that you are ALSO and probably even moreso going through an existential threat. Get prepared, be ready, start that now. I know we are.

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            maybe because it would be nice to avoid having our entire country kill each other? Maybe because all the people who have been brainwashed by our right-wing propoganda centers don’t really deserve to die just because they were duped?

            What, are we supposed to be happy that we’re rapidly heading towards the bloodiest conflict America has ever seen, just full speed ahead on death and destruction? You think it’s pointless to even try and care about the monumental loss of life?

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              Homie, you need to mentally prepare for the equivalent of what people went through during WWII.

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    How the hell do Elon and other oligarchs feel so safe to call for a literal civil war? He thinks the other side cares more about fighting Joe Bob more than the billionaires? Such strange delusional behavior

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      Historically, that is how elites have always maintained their power, so yes. It’s just a lot more difficult to 1) mobilize an overworked and comfort-seeking populace, and 2) we are more interconnected than ever before.

      The power of propaganda is being seized by the people. We create the content. We cover current and localized events (in actual real time) because it’s our actual communities. We know who is who and what is what.

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    He assumed his opponents would kill random people instead of targeting his property.

    He probably can’t even comprehend a worldview where people prefer to attack wealth over taking another human being’s life.

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      I was looking for someone saying this. He was envisioning a bunch of us poors fighting each other when he called for civil war. He never thought it would be all of us against him.

      It really does show that violence might be the only way to get through to these people. Not that I would ever advocate for such a thing directly myself of course of course. But if this is the only thing that gets their attention, it seems like he’s inviting more of it.

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    Does anyone else think the “happening in my town of (insert town name here)” is a bot account he set up to blow up small isolated incidents?

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      Burning lithium batteries are explosive, toxic and released heavy metals.

      There’s a limited supply of the materials for EVs and e-bikes but a huge value in replacing gas cars with these vehicles.

      Burning these huge batteries harms people breathing the air in the area.

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        hey what if we used trains with overhead wire instead? they’re better in basically every way, especially someplace relatively flat like vegas.

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        Yeah, it’d be better just to cease their purchase and let them sit, completely useless. A burnt car gets an insurance payout. What about throwing those giant stickers on the windshield that don’t peel off without ripping and leave a ridiculous mess? There was a Russian YouTube channel where people would do that to people driving on sidewalks.

        Bonus money and business for car detailers? Lol

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          I thought Teslas (or maybe just the Cyber truck?) wasn’t insurable. I thought that was the whole reason Tesla has to offer car insurance, because regular insurers won’t cover them.

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          throwing those giant stickers on the windshield that don’t peel off without ripping

          I read that in snowcrash, didn’t know it was a real thing.

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          I would agree normally, but at a larger scale, it would cost insurance more to replace everything leading to higher rates and possibly refusal of insurance due to the risk associated.

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    genocide? cool and good. black bagging people for protected speech? yeah, pretty fucking cool. letting people die of preventable disease and disaster? yeah, what are you, gay?

    but damaging a car? you’re basically the worst thing a person can be.

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      not damaging a car, what he considers attacking his ego by damaging his worthless scrap heaps. Weight on the word his, as they remain his cars even if you pay for them. he can take control of them or do whatever so you literally can’t even own a tesla, only suck up to musk.