• TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      the whole fucking series was horny bait. enterprise fucking sucked. a bunch of good ole boys, all white and bland as milk, trying to fuck a bunch of alien babes: Vulcan, and Asian. and their linguistic sci fi was garbage

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            Valid opinion, to me after ENT Star Trek with the mentality of the whole bridge crew being the main characters seems to have died, in Disco it seemed like the only valuable member was Burnham.

            + Disco gave in a lot into being apologetic towards Section 31, which is basically modelled after one of the largest terrorist organisations on this planet, the CIA

            EDIT: these are just examples meant to describe the general direction of NuTrek

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              Yeah definitely two valid points.

              And honestly I agree with them. There are also some other issues I have with star trek in general esspecially when seen througth a leftist lense. I will expandupon than when i have more time

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                From a leftist POV, Star Trek (before the reboot and arguably partially before ENT even) is basically a utopian socialist dream full of idealism. There are little to no materialist analyses and OFC it was heavily influence by:

                1. Being a TV series from a fucking US conglomerate having to appeal to yankees (and directors like Rick Bean 🙃). Which blocked progressive writers a significant amount of times
                2. Roddenberry in the first place being heavily influenced by the navy and him having this somewhat undefined secular Christian influence culturally
                3. and OFC many other things, but 1. and 2. are what came to mind most prevalently

                Despite this, DS9 followed by TNG then VOY make up my absolute favourite TV shows.
                (I unfortunately don’t know that many Soviet works, despite having access to them culturally being a German born Russian and all)

                The format and focus on philosophy, (human) personality, ethics and development just make my brain go brrr sometimes (though re-watching S1-2 of TNG is kinda hard.

                (Also please don’t take this as me interrupting you, feel free to leave a second comment like in “parallel” to the one I’m responding to RN)

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            I haven’t watched much of discovery yet but I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen. was really surprised to see all the hate. I guess it’s a slow start, and there’s sure to be “corporate woke shit” somewhere down the line, but it doesn’t seem like it’s pandering yet

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        The one where they auction off T’Pol was rough, but I tapped out (even as a horny 16 year old, mind you) at the episode where the villains were literally women in bikinis painted green. It’s great and all that Orions are a matriarchal society of hot space pirates (who doesn’t love that) but for fuck’s sake that episode was just the worst kind of patronizingly objectifying “hot women being action heroes is empowerment, ackchually” bullshit. I know it was a throwback to old trek, but… come on, it’s not the 60s anymore.

        (The one where t’pol has to get laid or die has at least got precedent? But it’s still played off just so… icky…)

        fuck, and that show could have been so good :(