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    Picked a couple up for $0.78 yesterday at the local Mexican supermarket.

    You know, the people our nation is actively persecuting.

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    I have a job at a large corporate retail store and we recently raised a lot of prices, mostly for things that haven’t been hit by tariffs yet. The owner is using the tariffs as an excuse to jack up prices for no reason. Even if all the tariffs were done away with tomorrow, corporate America is still going to jack up the prices.

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    Today i learned that in the us arizona tea is extremely good and cheap, while here in europe you can only get it imported so its pretty expensive…

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    Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what’s essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it’s partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren’t vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients

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      Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they’ve just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.

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        I’m not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they’re to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I’ve heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that’s true.

        I’ll gladly be proven otherwise - don’t know enough about them tbh

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          In Europe without industrial honey bees we would not have apples, crops amd stuff because they are almost solely responsible for the pollination.

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            Fun stuff, but you forgot that we reduced wild pollinator population by around 70%? Mainly due to the monoculture agriculture, and pesticide usage? The thing they are now needed for?

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            What’s an industrial honeybee? In my head I have bees buzzing around wearing tiny hi-vis vests and helmets.

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              So basically all honey you buy is made by the European honey bee, which is known for making lots of honey. Beekeepers place them in boxes and collect the honey. And basically once you have more than 20 hives you are commercially viable and that is what I mean with industrial

              Asia has a different kind of bee that Beekeepers breed, but almost all of the rest of the world is using the same species.

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          It’s a lack of human imagination to think that animals without eyebrows can’t suffer.

          There are parts of (industrial) beekeeping that aren’t ethical. It’s up to people themselves to decide if they are comfortable with that.

          For example outcompeting other native pollinators, culling entire hives by drowning or gassing is a thing, clipping the wings of the queen to prevent swarming, increased risk of disease due to lower nutritional value of sugar water

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      Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It’s nectar?

      Please don’t tell me it’s to do with exploitation of insects.

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        Don’t worry, they’ll be just as hypocritical as any other virtue-signaling group. Bees make honey, honey bad. But they’ll act like pollenators aren’t needed for crops or something. Or ignore that beekeepers will take their hives out to farms to pollinate various crops, like avocado. Or that bees seem to, on some level, understand that they have a great deal going. They’re not trapped in the hives; they could leave at anytime but don’t. And their honey production is higher than that of wild bees. And they have a higher survival rate because the beekeeper ensures they’re safe from predators, or from the elements, and from disease. Every beekeeper I’ve ever seen absolutely love their bees.

        But the fun part, is not all vegans think like this. Because it’s a “contentious” topic among them. For one, why does anyone care what anyone eats? Like, as long as it’s not cannibalism, I don’t give a shit. But vegans, from what I gather, will “rank” themselves to other vegans to see who’s more vegan than the other. It really reminds me of the “church ladies”. The type who judge you for not being churchy enough, who brag about how much church they go to, how much they “do for the church”, a “higher than thou” mentality. Some vegans are closer to vegetarians, with just additional restrictions. So just like any group, it’s not all… it’s just a really loud minority that tries to speak for everyone.

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            I actually am tired and hungry, so yes, I will. And I am not offended by swear words. It was the phrasing, and it seems I am not the only one.

            I hope you find calmness in life.

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        Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they’re more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there’s an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there’s the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that’s not ours for the taking.

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    Arizona tea was already $1.79 at most places around here before Trump even became president the first time. There’s pretty much only 1 store I can go and get them for the 99 cents advertised on the can, and they don’t even carry anything other than the Mucho Mango juice 😩

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      A lot of stores around here covered the .99 up with a store sticker 5 years ago, which I thought was blasphemy.

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    Why are they using anything imported anyways? All that the tariffs have done in my life so far is make me question what these “local” “American” companies have been doing. Mind you, two phrases have come back into my speech:

    “No company is your friend, even if they make something you like.” & " Silence, brand!"

    Companies affected by the tariffs are now among the companies whose products I actively avoid.

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      Why are they using anything imported anyways?

      Ah yes, let me just buy local from all of the American tea farms, American bauxite mines, and American aluminum refineries. Oh wait, America doesn’t actually produce meaningful amounts of any of those resources. Pretty much the only thing Arizona would reasonably be able to buy domestically is the sugar.

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        Not to mention any part of the factory automation technology. Capacitors on the circuit board are made in Japan if they’re decent, motor windings from China, solenoids , the lot.

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        The US imports lots of Aluminium and refines it into Aluminum

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      Why are they using anything imported anyways?

      Could be just aluminum for the cans, doesnt have to be that they are importing anything just that suppliers are.

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        Guys…

        The product is called Arizona Iced TEA. The main ingredient is… drumroll brewed tea.

        How many tea-farms do you know of in the US? There are some small-scale ones, but only one large-scale one at 127 acres.

        India has over 800 major estates and ~60,000 small tea gardens across the country

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          And the costs are not high for the tea itself, which is my point. Its hard to say exactly which supplier, what component of flavoring, etc would be an issue for costs that caused an increase (or if they just wanted to use it as an excuse).

          Point is, it doesnt matter why. There are lots of imports for various materials for functionally any company in the US.

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            I’d assume that after years and years of absorbing rising prices, they just are finally at a point where they have to to stay afloat. I’m sure just the aluminum tariffs are a huge reason.

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              I dont know about staying afloat, its just the one kind of can thats been under $1.

              That said, yeah they definitely have less wiggle than they used to. It also goes to show how much they were making on that 99 cent can back in the 90s.

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            I thought it might have something to do with protesting as well, a tad. I mean for sure their costs have gone up, as they have over the years. Exactly because they’ve kept the price the same on purpose and had that as a marketing point, they could now garner quite a bit of attention towards this tariff-idiocy by finally yielding and raising the price. It’s kind of a win-win for them, probably, unless the sales plummet.

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          Then they should have long since been growing their tea and fruit in upstate NY, as well as focusing on sourcing their water responsibly.

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            Because, decades ago, they should’ve guessed that a demented clown will take over the US…?

            Seems a tad unreasonable.

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                Good luck 1) growing tea and fruit in upstate NY and 2) finding the workforce for jobs that quite a significant portion of Americans are literally physically unable to perform.

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            And when the crop doesn’t grow they’re they should just yell at the trees and kick them until they produce more.

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          Complicit in… Importing goods that aren’t made in the US or have a substantially more limited supply?

          What are you saying they are complicit in here, trade with other companies?

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              The practices of buying goods for production? That some resources (aluminum) exist in other parts of the world? That others (tea) are better produced in a different climate?

              What the hell are you even talking about?

              Edit: Just to be clear here - this is a manufactured problem by the POTUS. There is absolutely no reason for the tariffs other than a complete lack of understanding of basic economics. Capitalism (especially effectively unregulated as it is now) is atrocious, but this isn’t an example of capitalism being a problem (well aside from it being used as an excuse to raise prices).

              This is just stupid policies being enacted. Its a tax on Americans and nothing else. This is just as insanely idiotic as slashing a bunch of programs that idiots dont bother to understand, which either are a net benefit for the US or an extremely cheap global benefit, whether humanitarian or economic.

              Short answer: the people in charge are ignorant and destructive.

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      Tea famously does not grow in the US.

      Plus, they sell in aluminum cans, which probably are sourced from Canada or Mexico, or are made in the US from aluminum sourced from Canada or Mexico.

      And of course all of their machinery requires upkeep using parts and chemicals which may or may not be made abroad.

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      It’s the raw goods that American companies need. Most American manufacturers assemble in the United States. So they have to raise prices because if the raw goods imported.

      Trump is so dumb he doesn’t think past his tiny ass hands.

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        If the companies were responsible with all that recycling we’ve been doing over the last half-century, they wouldn’t need to import raw metal. We’d be able to reuse all that glass and metal.

        I guess this might be the only way to get American consumers to understand that the point was always Reduce, reuse, and recycle in descending importance; rather than the other way around.

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      They are also pretty expensive here in Germany, though a few stores sell some select flavors for less than 1€.