At this point giving them some bones might be preferable. I’m sure there have to be SOME extra bones in here somewhere.
Yeah it’s weird when websites show the sign up button, but hide the log in button inside some little shit of a menu.
Like… are people coming back to your website after signing up…? I would have thought that repeat log ins would be the more common use case by far.
They’re making their site inconvenient so you’ll download their app. Every fucking website and product has an app now.
Too bad I don’t give a shit. I’m not downloading an app just so i can pay my water bill
- Change your profile picture to a clippy
- Check out the small web
- Checkout geminispace and gopherspace
I wish more people would use Gopher.
Create a cool alternative web that isn’t filled with harmful degeneracy (looking at you, Tor. I2P ur cool though). I don’t think JavaScript in its essence was toxic to the web, like how one snort of heroine isn’t technically a killing thing. But it got addicted and all and dragged is down with its demise.
I will look up Gopher because I’m curious, but for less curious people and for other users to see, what is Gopher?
Do we do GPT here?
Gopher is a 1990s-era internet protocol that delivers text and files through simple hierarchical menus.
The small web is a loose movement of minimalist, personal, and non-commercial websites built outside the corporate web.
Gemini is a 2019 protocol for browsing encrypted, text-first sites using a simple markup language called Gemtext.
To connect to Gemini, install a Gemini client like Amfora and open a gemini:// URL.
First impression: good! Looks pretty cool.
this is the start page when I launch Amfora
then I went to Gemini Project, just some address I found on the net
No we dont. Look, I struggled writing something too but make the effort to find a credible source. For example, my other post referers “hackaday” which is incredibly more legitimate and informative than anything an LLM could come up with.
I applaud your effort to reply instead of simply answering “are you too lazy to google/gpt” as engagement is why we are here, but I wouldn’t recommend just reformulating a question and post an LLM reply. If anything, small user made errors and all makes the engagement more genuine and meaningful, no need to be right all the time for example.
Sorry to not give a personal answer as I am struggling to write something right now, but the following source is well known within the community of those who like these kind of things.
Gopher, The Competing Standard To WWW In The ’90s Is Still Worth Checking Out
this is a rant about microsoft
how on the fucking earth are you the biggest company and have hands down the worst login imaginable. you know for a fact people have multiple accounts for your platform, it’s incredibly common to have a work specific micorosoft account after all. AND YET you lock in a specific email for login??? and you don’t even put a bloody “i’d like to log in with a different email”??? oh there’s a “use a different login method” button it’s all okay right? wrong that button still doesn’t let you change the login email! but now you can log in with a code sent to it :).
what if that “”“”“convenience”“”" you’re trying to give people by checks notes, not including an incredibly common button that takes you to the default login page without a specific email baked into it, is actually an impossible pain in the ass? what if that email is someone else’s and then just hit the “remember me” out of habit? go fuck yourself :). go into the browser setting and manually delete the cookies or if you can’t or don’t know how to do that then just fuck yourself :)
not to even fucking mention how if you try to log into teams desktop client app that info is going to get fucking applied to the entire windows account??? without asking about it clearly either it just fucking does that! it just fucking links to your local account instsntly
who asked for that microsoft? what deranged motherfucker in your board of directors came in high off his tits and uttered the cursed phrases needed for those feature to fucking exist?
and is that guy the only one allowed to speak? the only who’s vocabulary extends past “great idea! let’s do that”?
how is your user account management worse and more annoying than any virus i had?
i literally just needed to log in to someone’s account once, for an hour, to substitute for them in one call. and that silly little action has taken fucking hours to undo, and all done with force “how to delete someone else’s email from microsoft login”? delete your fucking cookies or team cache. “how to unlink a microsoft account from windows”? don’t forget to input your pc password! dw about how we didn’t ask for it when we just linked it to your local account, you need it now :) oh and unlinking isn’t removing, you gotta do that one too!
there has been genuinely nothing else in the past decade that has made me more frustrated, more fucking seething with anger, than dealing with the fallout of needing to use someone else’s microsoft account for an hour
i literally just needed to log in to someone’s account once, for an hour, to substitute for them in one call.
I get your frustration, but that’s a fucking awful choice for a whole bunch of reasons, not only because of Microsoft’s bullshit. You really buried the lede.
Don’t share accounts people!
Have them forward you the meeting invite or reach out to the organizer to call you instead.
And if you fucking insist on logging into someone else’s account again, use Private Browsing mode and the web client of Teams to keep it from touching the rest of the machine. It works fine for audio and video calls.
At any place with a half decent security policy you’d be looking at disciplinary action. At certain workplaces this would be an immediate firing.
I have Microsoft accounts for work, my admin credentials at work, my side gig, and my personal. You can not share passwords and still be incredibly frustrated at Microsoft’s stupid refusal to put a “Switch User” link on the login form which autopopulates based on cookies. Otherwise I gotta go find a Microsoft page, log in, log OUT, and then go try my original log in again. This is painful if you’re constantly switching accounts, as Zero Trust requires admins to do.
I’m familiar, and I said nothing about any of that other than that I understood the frustration.
That’s also not the situation of the person I replied to. They thought the correct way to sub for someone in a meeting was to share credentials and log in as the other person.
I was calling out that absymally bad idea, and providing a work around.
To your point, you also shouldn’t be mixing use cases of your devices. You don’t want to end up in some legal shit, or in a data exfiltration investigation.
My personal desktop (and personal laptop when I still used one besides my work one) was a local account, signed into my personal Microsoft account via the browser. That could also work directly signed into the personal account instead of using a local account.
All work stuff stays on work provided hardware, or on a VM. I even spin up a light VM to just open a VPN session so I can remote into work resources. If I had multiple gigs, I’d make separate VMs for them. Personal Microsoft account never fucking touches these.
For elevated access accounts for work: separate browser, separate browser profile, or private browsing mode. Most admin work in Entra is through web portals (or Powershell).
I still can end up with minor issues from stuff like needing to use my admin Entra/Azure account to log into the Microsoft Graph Powershell module, so I end up with two entries in the Entra logon page on the work devices sometimes, but I just select the correct account if I get prompted. If it doesn’t, logout of that specific system/program and select the correct account (which I’m logged into the work machine as). Loss of a few seconds, not this massive issue.
Do you want to save this account for future login?
This makes me really value the effort I put into learning Linux.
Lucky for me I don’t need to use Windoze for work either.
started creating accounts with my previous landlord’s name and addresses. I’m VERY forthcoming with his info. I’m not even pro-privacy anymore, I’m just Greg McKenna of Albuquerque NM. eat up, data collectors. enjoy, Church of Scientology. mmmmmmm that’s right, yum yum 🥰
“We do not track you on our site.”
AdGuard: “Blocked 216 tracking requests.”
They’re not lying, they don’t track you. Those 216 other clankers tho 👀
We and our 1842 partners value your privacy.
… we also need your cookie and tracking preferences. Do you want us to store all possible data about you and share it with everyone? “Yes” or “Yes, but we pretend not to”
When there is a “legitimate interest” switch at each of the 262 partners which can only be toggled off manually, one by one, and it’s all on by default.
So you click the question mark to see what exactly they mean by legitimate interest, and the info pop-up says “it’s when our interest is legitimate”.
This should be regulated more strictly.
They didn’t until EU laws, so you can thank them for that.
Thank god that at least they made them ask. Another thing I’m massively happy for is GDPR. I keep getting mails in my inbox for all sort of random accounts I don’t remember signing up for that I probably just checked out once and forgot about, asking me if they can keep my data, please, because if I don’t reply then they can’t, and they would REALLY REALLY LIKE TO C’MON FRIEND BE MY FRIEND
With a small list of only 700 data collectors!
That you have to individually confirm or deny, or you can’t save!
(Fun!)
pay pal’s website asks if I want to verify through text, then freaks when it discovers that it is not a phone app, but instead a webpage on a browser with no SMS functionality to ask permissions for
*sell it to everyone
I don’t remember which website, but there is one where both sign-up and log-in pages look the same. If you fill your username and password in the sign-up page, but you already have that account they log you in instead. If you put the details in the log-in page but that account doesn’t exist they send you to the full sign-up page.
I thought that’s pretty neat.
That is pretty neat, stealing that idea for the login page of my hobby project
I write my email in the login field but my password manager doesn’t show me a password. I click “i forgor” button. Now I must type my email again. No one knows why.
Back in my day, the BBS forum would send you an email with your username and a password they chose, and you could change it later if you wanted to, but nobody ever did.
lol one of my main trackers still does that if you reset your password
It was a delightfully innocent time. I liked the ones that got creative with their passwords, like AOL.
ArchdukeDoberman115
FastidiousGrapefruit47
PineappleWallaby202
Maybe boring manager Rob should have written god damn login page himself after all.
some of the more obnoxious sites never actually removed the old www.tumblr.com/login. Poke around with your site of choice, there’s probably a legacy login that would have been more work than it was worth to remove.
DrivebyRPG… Looking at you.
