“Professionals are predictable but there are a lot more amateurs to account for.”
A general strike for 2 weeks. Will bring the economy to near destruction and force change
Tell everyone to stock up on two weeks worth of supplies and look for a new job hoping everything works out? The hardest part is getting enough people to actually commit to it
The other thing to consider, and maybe this is already addressed, is that there’s a stunningly large proportion of the population that is not only okay with this, they want it. And it’s not a situation where those people who approve or simply don’t care are segregated out by regions, they’re literally living next doors and up stairs. They’re cousins and sisters and fathers and bosses and coworkers and so on. This is not some super easy “why doesn’t the larger of the two simply eat the other?” kind of situation, and no matter how hard anybody wants to try and reduce it down to that, sorry, that’s just now how things work.
So more in line with Nazi Germany than confederate 1860s USA
I’m rapidly approaching the point where I don’t care if anyone has a plan or not.
Americans were bred not to fight for anyone except the master. There is no real God(s) here.
If I managed to rally my fellow men with out being
assasinated by the CIA/FBIcommingling suicide, then we would just bebombed out of existence like the the black panthersterrorist combantants.If the US collapses before I die. I can die happy.
This is an evil country. It makes war on the world. It threatens the world via control of the reserve currency. To say nothing of the abuses it visits on its own citizens.
Total collapse. Balkanization. Don’t care how. No expectation of surviving the fall. But as long as it falls I can die happy knowing that life on this planet has a brighter future than it did with the US at the till.
They should just disunite and become 51 independent states. Then they don’t have to project their internal differences onto other countries any more.
I agree, Balkanization would be for the best at this point; there’s no longer any legal solution
Every state has its own government and the feds have become more trouble than they are worth.
I should add that even if the states get a right to secede, but don’t use it, that improves people’s lives.
Because the states can constantly pressure the federal government to be nice to the states or the states will secede. This way, the federal government is forced to treat states somewhat better, if it wants to retain power.
Laws don’t mean anything any more, so states should just go ahead and dew it regardless of legality.
as long as at leadt one state fully commits to doing the dew. Baja Blast style.
Putting aside reality, the day New Jersey decides to bounce, I will fight for New Jersey. When people ask the general “What are you waiting for,” I’m waiting for NJ to declare war on the world.
without a rallying force, its just sparkling crazed gunman
This is kind of it. I know there are protests and movements and all that, but folks on here say it’s not enough, and that may be true, but as you jest, one guy isn’t getting anywhere by himself. And to take it a step further, putting together some kind of group will draw the attention of Alphabet Agencies faster than anyone can do anything.
We’ve got 20-plus years of spying on American citizens, and that’s on the books, excluding what they did before they legalized it.
Americans don’t know how to cooperate, they’re raised with a “me first” mentality. They can’t fathom the thought of laying down their lives for their countrymen, so unless you propose to them a revolution where every one of them gets treated as the main character and everybody else as the supporting cast, they won’t lift a finger.
Also “the fellow countryman” being racist and fully supporting of the whole process doesn’t exactly help with motivation.
Also there are those of us who don’t see other Americans as countrymen, I am a Californian first American by technicality. I hope to drop shells on Utah one day. Nevada, Arizona, Washington, and Oregon are cool though, Idaho has the potential to be cool if the politicians and zealots were purged Idaho Falls has a great MilSurp store.
Only if we get nuked. It’s still continuous from the Bear Flag Revolt.
Disunited States of America would be great, thank you.
Divided States of America is a better term.
- they LIKE racism
- very few, mostly funding issues
- toy helicopters, vapors + soapification effected solids
- lone wolf. huey P. Newton’s autobiography title, all threads lead to doomed wolf
- revolution with heavily splintered factions that all kill each other for power at the end of toppling the old guard is a tale as old as time.
- no. consider that political theories the average person is aware of are old, out dated, and largely meaningless concepts that many people have idolized. Marx has been dead so long, I doubt he would have any clue how to deal with geopolitical machinations. if he could grasp them. there’s really no point in theory. analysis isn’t a creative process. it’s only ordering chaos into a digestible framework, it’s not how anything comes to be. creative acts are based on needs. what would happen? who can say. but I can say nothing will make sense in 4 years. it stopped making sense before then as well, but, again. it will stop making sense. that’s all.
To get that kind of momentum going against a literal police state would be difficult to say the least. Such a movement would also likely be smothered in it’s crib by the surveillance state we built ostensibly to keep us safe from the terrorist boogeyman that America created.
Even if the revolutionaries win, there’s no guarantee that the government that comes as a result would be better in any way. Great warriors rarely make great rulers.
This is it. Anyone who might be interested in “fighting back” who has half a braincell knows it’s just not possible. It needs to come from a state, or even a city. It needs to have some political figurehead, some borders, some organization. Taking on the government is not a DIY operation, and said government is not going to let some organization pop up when that organization’s goal is to fight back.
We’ve been “legally” spied on here for my entire adult life, and then some. Brainwashing red hats was the last step.
Listen, at least tear it down for the rest of the world, what you do after that is up to you, but for the love of god just stop the existence of the usa
That would hit the whole world very hard and millions maybe a billion would die. Without the US there would be war.
Lmao sure buddy,the force of peace, the USA. Do you live under a rock? Or do you don’t consider Iraqis, Iranians, Palestinians, Kosovans, etc… not human?
We are in the middle of a revolution, just not one of, for, or by the people.
Now that corporations are people, they are “fighting for their rights” to make obscene profits; it’s a “Cash is King” plutocratic revolution.
Violent revolutions almost always result in bad governments for exactly this reason, i.e. it’s only fringe idealists that get it together enough to lead one, and such people are usually terrible at doing actual grown-up governing.
It’s why it’s so infuriating to see right-wingers claim that basic social safety nets and tackling inequality are Communism, because it’s like, if you want Communism then pushing half the population towards that level of desperation is exactly how you end up with it.
I’m just gonna leave this here:
“Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
Everyone I know involved in nonviolent protests is also currently fighting legal battles for people who got hospitalized unprovoked by police at said legally organized nonviolent protests.
From your lips to whoever’s listening out there. I fear that the sheer number of weapons out there will make any nonviolence quite tenuous
